In 2008, drama student Jonny Benjamin decided to take his life, by jumping from Waterloo Bridge in London. One man saved his life.
What ensued was one of the most impressive manhunts in the history of Twitter. #FindMike (a man actually named Neil Laybourn) became a worldwide trend and attracted global mainstream media in the search for this one man who made the difference between life and death. We speak to Jonny about how his story is now the subject of a new documentary The Stranger On The Bridge, and how coming out as gay was equally as hard as coming out with a mental illness.
JH: Now that the documentary is out and itโs not just morning TV or radio snippets, but the story told by you, can you describe how you feel?
JB: It feels quite surreal to be honest for it to be out there. It feels good. Iโve had some really amazing feedback from people that either feel that theyโve been educated or people that have been going through similar things themselves. Iโm really pleased with the reaction.
JH: Does it feel like youโve got closure?
JB: Yeah it does. It feels like that chapter is closed, it was a really dark place that I was in and it feels like that door is closed to that chapter now. Which is a good feeling.
JH: But Hollywood is knocking on the door?
JB: Yeah, we have had approaches from Hollywood, again very surreal, but weโre in early days and early stages.
JH: Youโve talked about getting closure and how it feels good, but how do you feel about this story being on the silver screen, going out to an even wider audience than youโve had so far?
JB: Itโs great because the whole point of this is to raise awareness of both suicide and mental illness. If it goes even bigger, or even further then great, because it will increase awareness, help more people. So Iโm happy for it to go far and wide as possible, if itโs going to help people.
JH: How discriminatory do you think society is for those living with mental health problems?
JB: I think itโs getting much better, I think the stigma around mental illness is decreasing, so itโs getting easier to live with a mental illness in public. Itโs still got some way to go though, particularly for conditions like schizophrenia. Thereโs a lot of understanding out there on depression and bipolar, but thereโs very little understanding about schizophrenia.
I was reading one survey, it said that three quarters of people with schizophrenia donโt tell their friends and family, which is a huge number. So thereโs a lot of stigma out there about schizophrenia and thatโs the point of the film weโve just done, to reduce that stigma really.
JH: Was it difficult to go back to the bridge and to Neil (the man dubbed Mike) again and revisit the past?
JB: At some points it was difficult. When I looked through all the photos of the different Mikes that came forwardโฆ that was really difficult. You definitely have to go back to that place that you were (at). I found that quite tough. Going back to the bridge? I got used to it in the end. We had so many interviews and so many photo-shoots on the bridge, you get used to it really.
JH: Since the broadcast of the film, have you noticed people treating you differently?
JB: No, I havenโt to be honest. Not at all. Everyoneโs been the same with me. Almost like it hasnโt happened now. It feels quite strange, feels like it was a bit of a dream. No oneโs treating me differently. What I have got is a really overwhelming response, which is lovely. Really overwhelming. In a good way.
JH: Twitter can be used so positively but also it is a platform for trolling. Do you have a mechanism to deal with negativity? One particular celebrity who will go unmentioned had a popโฆ How are you dealing with people that might criticise you for bringing this issue to light?
JB: I just try and ignore it really. Ninety-nine per cent of people had positive feedback to say. It was just one or two people who were critical of it. I just ignore it really. Theyโre looking to start a fight and I donโt want to detract attention away from what the programme is really about, which is to raise awareness. I donโt really care what they say to be honest. It just shows their ignorance really. I feel sorry for them if anything.
CREDIT: Supplied by PR
PICTURED: Mike, Whose real name is Neil.
JH: What do you feel about the term mental health or mental illness? Could it be expressed better?
JB: With mental health there is that stigma. But what other words do you use really? I know some people have got issues around mental health and mental illness but I really donโt know what other term we would use. Weโve all got mental health. Itโs like a spectrum really.
JH: Do you think more celebrities like Stephen Fry and Ruby Wax should be coming out with their mental health issues?
JB: I think itโs really tough, because of the stigma for people to come out, but I think itโs happening, especially in the last few years Iโve noticed that people are becoming a lot more open. There should be no shame in it really. The more high profile people who come out and talk about it, is fantastic really. It inspires other people to do the same.
JH: How much has your sexuality played a part in your depression and in your schizophrenia? Is there a connection?
JB: I think there is. It was a massive weight on my shoulders hiding my sexuality and it definitely contributed towards what I went through Iโd say. I was so scared about coming out. I come from a Jewish family and itโs something thatโs frowned upon in the Jewish religion. I was really scared about coming out. It definitely added to my mental health issues for sure. When I came out eventually, I came out two months after I was diagnosed; it completely changed my life around for the better. Struggling with my sexuality definitely contributed to my suicidal thoughts and feelings. Thatโs how terrified I was about coming out.
JH: Which was easier to come out about for you? Being gay or having mental health issues?
JB: I think itโs equally hard to be honest. Equally as hard. Coming out about my mental illness was tough, really tough especially towards my friends. I found it really tough to come out to them. But with coming out about sexuality I found it harder to come out to my family.
JH: People must feel like they know so much about you, but really they only know a certain section about you, because thereโs more to you than a) being gay and b) having a mental illness. Do you think people think thatโs it? Nothing more to Jonny? Does being open with your mental health make it difficult to find a partner?
JB: Having mental health issues makes it difficult to find a partner more than anything. Things like paranoia and intrusive thoughts – some of the symptoms of schizophrenia are heightened when youโre in a relationship. Iโve never been in a proper relationship, I would say and Iโve always found it quite hard dealing with mental health issues when youโre with a person. A lack of understanding about my mental health makes it even harder. I might be very paranoid about where theyโre going, whom theyโre seeing. Itโs a level of trust that I find hard to gain.
JH: So are you more interested in looking after yourself at the moment then finding a partner?
JB: Yeah. The last two months have been really difficult; I became ill again at the end of last year. Thatโs my priority now to get my mental health back on track and relationships will come second.
JH: Is the NHS or the Government doing enough to engage in this issue?
JB: Thereโs nowhere near enough, in the UK thereโs 17 suicides every day. The reason why itโs so bad is because thereโs not enough education and support. We should be going into schools at an early age, into universities and work places as well to educate people and let them know that theyโre not alone and they can get support if theyโre struggling. It feels like a taboo, the subject we donโt want to talk about. But itโs all about reaching out.
When I was 16 or 17 at school and I was really starting to struggle with my mental health, if someone would have come in, a guest speaker, and just said โThis is what mental health is, this is what you can doโ, it would have changed my life around.
But unless we start talking about it then more and more people are going to suffer and unfortunately take their lives.
If you need to talk to somebody about issues raised in this interview there is a helpline for the LGBT community open from 10AM to 11PM everyday of year. Call: 0300 330 0630 or visit: www.llgs.org.uk